You STILL Suck! It's Not the Gun!
YOU STILL SUCK! IT’S NOT THE GUN!® (YSS)
MDFI ALUMNI ONLY
CLASS COST
$225.00
CLASS TIME
9am – 7pm
MCOLES REGISTERED COURSE
This course has been registered with the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards (MCOLES) for use of PA 302 Law Enforcement Distribution funds and earns training credit within MITN.
PRE-REQUISITES
MDFI’s You Suck! It’s Not the Gun!
MDFI’s Foundation Handgun
STUDENTS REQUIRED TO PASS THE MDFI FOUNDATION HANDGUN QUALIFIER AT THE BEGINNING OF CLASS. View target here (instructions on page 2).
Valid CPL or Law Enforcement Credentials (if you do not have either, email us for instructions).
MUST KNOW, UNDERSTAND AND APPLY THE FOUR LIFE RULES OF RESPONSIBLE FIREARMS HANDLING AT ALL TIMES. See video below.
DESCRIPTION
Class Flow: MODERATE (students can expect full day of shooting with a good deal of physical and mental work from a static line)
YSS | You STILL Suck! It’s Not the Gun! is the continuation of our core handgun class. Designed for those that have joined us for our standard YSINTG class, become VERY PROFICIENT at the skills learned in YSINTG, and now want to push the boundaries of their marksmanship skills. Now that you can get a hit where you want it, can you do it over and over again and quickly? Can you do it at different distances? YSS builds upon the fundamentals of shooting and introduces performance shooting principles with a series of drills and exercises.
Veteran Alumni will work together with the cadre to continue to work the fundamentals of marksmanship while placed in ever-growing challenges.
While this class will require and stress the basics of what shooting is all about, it will be different than any other class we offer.
Although YSS is the sequel to our YSINTG class, they are NOT designed to be taken back to back with no individual practice in-between. Shooters must be proficient at all topics covered in YSINTG before attending to get the most out of the course. If a student cannot keep all 10 rounds on the YSINTG qualifier target at 10 yards, this class is not for you.
TOPICS COVERED
- In-depth Firearms Responsibility (safety) and Medical Briefing
- Fundamentals of Marksmanship
- Shooting Techniques
- The Balance of Speed and Accuracy
- Accurate Cadence of Fire
- Timing
- Shooting at Distance
STUDENT REQUIREMENTS
REQUIRED
- Semi-Automatic Handgun (We recommend using the handgun you carry most for defense)
- 350 Rounds of Ammunition
- 2 Magazines – more if your magazine capacity is 10 or less
- Quality Holster (see FAQ for allowed types)
- Eye + Ear Protection
- You must bring your CPL (or LE credentials) to class.
RECOMMENDED:
- Appropriate Clothing for Weather
- Clothing You Don’t Mind Getting Dirty / Damaged
- Sunscreen / Insect Repellent
- Folding Canopy, Table and/or Chair
- Snacks + Drink for 8 Hours of Training
UPCOMING CLASSES
This course is only available to MDFI Alumni therefor you must be logged in to your Alumni account to register.
STUDENT REVIEWS
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If you want to learn how to be confident in not only shooting fast, but knowing when and how to shoot fast while still being accurate, this is the class for you. It's the most I've improved my shooting ability in years in just one day's worth of instruction and shooting. I can't recommend this class enough to anyone who's taken YSINTG and Foundation Handgun. Not just 5/5 but 100/100
This is an excellent class to build on the skills from foundations handgun and you suck. It was really fun to see the class build on the ability to keep the gun running and also make hits that were learned in the other classes, but to do it at speed. Highly recommend this class.
You Still Suck! It’s Not the Gun! was one of the most challenging, well-structured, and rewarding courses I’ve taken to date. As an advanced follow-up to You Suck! It’s Not the Gun!, this class pushed our shooting skills even further—with an intense focus on timed drills, precision under pressure, and movement that demands accountability on every shot.
True to MDFI’s instructional excellence, the cadre delivered clear, professional, and honest feedback throughout the day. Every drill had a purpose and built on the skills we’ve developed through Foundation Handgun and YSINTG. This course is where theory meets reality—and it will absolutely expose your weaknesses while giving you the tools to improve.
It was a brutally hot day on the range, but the training was so engaging and fast-paced that the time flew by. The final exercises tied everything together in a way that was both humbling and confidence-building.
If you're serious about advancing your handgun skills, You Still Suck! is a must. I’ll definitely be back.
This class is essential for improving accuracy and control at speed. The concepts you learn in this class build on YSINTG and Foundation Handgun, and anyone who has been practicing those skills will have no problem working through YSSINTG. It will show you where you still suck and give you the tools to improve. Highly recommended!
Welp, it's confirmed... I STILL suck! However, YSS really helps you to diagnose reasons why your shot, especially with speed, can fall apart quickly and what it takes to mitigate that from happening. It'll take practice and reps for sure, but trust the process. Tim and Brandon do a fantastic job breaking it all down and teaching everything from the ground up! I can also appreciate the fact that Tim and Brandon are always finding ways to revamp or adjust the curriculum to suit the needs of the students. Don't be afraid of this course. I highly encourage anyone who wants to take their shooting to the next level to enroll and embrace the suck... you won't be disappointed. This course will definitely make you a better shooter.